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  1. This is type of clean, physical football I like to see. We see a lot of teams do this. Of course I tell my players to just keep running (but don't drop a shoulder). This usually plays itself out among the individual players and how physical they want to be--but again within the rules. We also have a lot of "pull-and-grabs". I've attached a pic I found where this happened. Ironically, I know the defender grabbing my player in this picture. He's a great kid. My own son tried this technique a few years ago, and I nipped it pretty quickly. I think kids will try to do what they can until coached otherwise. :-) Coach long enough and you will see many players get "pantsed" (as my players call it). I can forgive a coach for allowing this, just not the full on diving for the legs or horse collar tackle. Also agree that when the ball crosses the line before flag pull--that is a TD. I believe you coach in Texas, so certainly your league should know that all-level football rule. :-)
  2. Thanks for everyone's feedback thus far. I've still not met with the director, but plan to this week. RoyalFlush: I agree with an ejection. The worst aspect of this is how blantant it can be. The one coach I mentioned would actually applaud his player after a 'desperation' tackle and scream out loud "That's what I'm talking about! Do what you gotta do. All day!. Some of his team's parents would even yell "Heads up play, Billy! Good penalty!" As I mentioned, at least the other coaches raised enough stink we were able to get him banned from the league--so the good guys eventually won, and hopefully it served as a message. However, there is still not an official 'rule' on it yet, which I'm hoping to get implemented: officials discretion if he wants to award TD or not. Texas D: That is odd they don't allow you to pitch the ball. I wonder what the intent is for the rule? I'd say at least half of our running plays involves a pitch. They are even good for fakes. We have a formation where two players are a yard back from the LOS, flanking both sides of the QB. We'll pitch it left three out of five plays, and then run a play where we quickly fake the pitch to the left and then pitch it right to a speedy player. It's pretty simple, but I'm always amazed at how easy it is to condition a defense like that. They lean in the direction where we faked giving the ball-carrier a good 3-5 step start before the defense can retain their balance. It's also amazing that you have coaches subbing in ringers. While I know for a fact we've faced players that were older than our league allows (we don't check birth certificates) I'm not aware of seeing players who aren't even registered take the field. Wow! RoyalFlush: I've never understood the "no run zone". I know what it is, just don't get it. Especially (as you mentioned) with younger kids--it can be difficult to pass/catch. I also agree with engaging the coaches. I think I'm fortunate with our league since they are always very open to coaches' suggestions. In fact, a lot of times if a coach proposes a rule, and the majority of the coaches agree to it, it is implemented. George: I agree you guys should have a tournament. Ironically, I've heard rumors our league is considering doing away with our tournament due to the 'intesity' of some of the coaches when it comes to this. I will fight hard to keep our tournament, as my thinking is just because some coaches cannot handle themselves properly does not mean everyone else has to suffer. Also 8-minute quarters does seem too short. We play 12-minute quarters, which I assume is pretty standard. Thanks again for everyone's feedback. I'd like to hear more!
  3. I imagine it happens quite a bit--just noticed it the past two seasons. As stated, I see no problem with it as long as the coaches are doing it for the right reasons (and not to simply try and destroy the rest of the league). Sounds like you did the right thing by not accepting, as having different coaching philosphies will never be the recipe for success.
  4. I love the fact we get to "go for it" (first downs). It really does add another element to the game. In our last play-off game (against the greatest team I've ever seen), I warned my DC that "I'm not punting in this game--we have nothing to lose." Of course once we ended up with fourth and 20 in our end of the field--I retracted. Ha! I agree with the injury factor, and actually do like the idea to disallow players to return kicks/punts. I would like to see no returns. Wherever the ball comes to a stop (or goes out of bounds) that is the spot. If it goes into/past the end-zone, then the offense starts at the 10. In fact, although I did not denote that as something I'll request during my meeting--I will bring that up. We are 10-12 league, and most of the kids are capable of kicking/punting (and I imagine some could even 'coffin corner' punt).
  5. I LOVE the idea of a kick-off. Along those lines, we have two first down markers (four downs to get to each one). When a team "punts", its virtual. i.e. the ball is moved to your opponents 10 yard line. I'd like to see actual punts. As you mentioned, the kids love kicking, and you would have no shortages of kids wanting to punt--and would add another skill to your team. You can even make it optional: punt the ball (and take your chances) or move the ball to the 10 yard line.
  6. Yes, this is an attempt to muster up some dialogue during the off-season :-). Another coach and I have been asked to meet with our league director to discuss any and all changes we would like to see in our league. Without going into a lot of detail, there is new leadership, and they have reached out to myself (the longest tenured coach) and another coach for our thoughts. I've stated this before, but the coaches pretty much run our league, so I think it's awesome they are being pro-active and leaning on us like this. It got me thinking--if you were in this position, what would YOU look to change with your league? For me I have two things: one can be enforced, and one can't. 1. Tackling when it's obvious a player is going to score a touchdown. This has become a huge problem in our league. Coaches tell their players to tackle anyone who is on his way to the end-zone. Coaches have no problem intructing this because it only helps them. We are here in Texas, and the mindset with some coaches is "this is FOOTBALL!" While I don't mind physical play (we actually encourage it) but we play within the rules. i.e. We are more 'chippy' about--we just react to physical play. My players will not be pushed around, but we respect the game and our opponents too much to play outside the rules. We had one coach very bad about doing this for seasons. When it got to the point there were near scuffles by the opposing parents due to his team's style of play, the other coaches got together and had him banned from the league. I've attached a pic of a good example (my player being tackled and dragged to the ground while he was about to score a TD). I blurred the faces to respect the two players (the defender was simply doing what he had been coached to do). My thinking is this should be a judgement call for the officials, and they can call a touchdown in these instances (instead of spotting the ball at the foul). This was actually supposed to be the rule this season but with the new leadership it never got propogated to the officials. I see no problem in getting this enforced next season. 2. More engaged coaches. While I know this cannot be influenced by our league, I'd really like it if some of the coaches did not take the game so seriously. I love fraternizing with the coaches in our league. Some coaches, however, see us as the enemy and have no part of even idle chit-chat with the opposing coaches. They simply don't respect their opponents. I guess it just depends on how you view the game. Because our league cannot punish this, these are the teams I like to put down. We don't run up the score, we just jump on them early and then take the foot off the pedal in the final 2-3 quarters. On the flip side, there are coaches in our league who have not come close to a championship, but on game day they are the happiest guys in the world. I always tell both teams during the coin toss, "This is a beautiful day for football, gentlemen. There's no other place in the world than I'd rather be right here playing football." A lot of us get together and chat after games, play golf together, and just like to talk about coaching football (as is the case with everyone on this forum). As mentioned, this is not a huge problem in our league (like #1), but something I would like to see changed. What would you change?
  7. Interesting to hear about your leagues, Tee-Dub. Is not keeping a team in tact due to league rules, or simply just high-turnover in the league? Keeping the same team does have its pros and cons. I made the decision manyseasons ago to stick with my core group. This was simply because all the boys are true gentlemen on and off the field (and I hold them to a very high standard) and the parents all buy into my philosophy: no stars, team first. The downside is that you don't have the opportunity to upgrade your team with "talent". From an athletic stand-point, my team is average at best. I have only one REALLY GOOD player (one of the best--if not the best--in our league). On the other side of the spectrum, I have some players that are simply not skilled at all. In fact, they could be considered some of the least-talented players in our league. I don't care because they meet my #1 requirement of being gentlemen who just battle hard on the football field! When all is said and done, we will have played 14 seasons together as a team. Obviously you put character guys over anything else to go that long. It's funny as after two seasons in this league(although they have overachieved), some of my players are asking "When are we going to win the Championship again?" Of course hearing that I 'reminded' them (for a good 15 minutes) about our single objective; and that is to execute. Execution will allow us to compete. Competing will then give us an opportunity to win. However, I could not help to hold back my smile as I know this is a group of players who are beginning to take winning a whole lot more serious than I do. I'm cool with that. I can keep them in check--no problem. We endeavor to be a very humble team--and that's a fun challenge with a group of salty, 10-year old football players with a bright future. :-) I imagine years from now when they think of our team, they will say (and probably roll their eyes) "Coach did not want to hear about wins or losses. He only kept score by how we executed." Ha! They know I am rooting for them to win it all again more than anyone--but we will do it one way--as a team.
  8. I've seen something interesting in our league and wondering if any of you coaches have dealt with his. We are the youngest team in our division and have caught the attention of a lot of people. We play in 10-12 and have been made quite a bit of noise due to the fact our team is so young and we have been very competetive. We are so young in fact, we have five more seasons left in this league. Our first two seasons in this league we had winning seasons and have only been thoroughly outplayed in two out of the 18 games we've played. I'm really not trying to brag here, and I know how fortunate I am to have such a great group of players. During our last week of the season, three different coaches approached me about "teaming up" and putting together a team with our best players. These three are all great coaches and have been around for a while. Two have them have not won a Championship before (but have been perennial contenders each season). Now that the 'clock is ticking' on their coaching careers, I can understand they want to really get a Championship. We have been fortunate to win some Championships, and I imagine I would the same way had we not won one (especially with the the amount of work we pug in). I tactfully informed each coach how I've had my team since Kindergarten. I will never break this team up so I simply cannot take on any new players. One of the coaches asked if only his son could be on our team. I do typically open one roster spot each season (for a players going to tackle) but that is already filled by a former player. I find it very creative for the coaches to join alliances like this. During our two seasons in the 10-12 league, I've seen a lot of coaches like to join forces (and they field a pretty good group of athletes). My number of "core players" has reached the maximum I will take on. These boys have nothing more to prove to me. They have simply been the most battle-tested team in our league for many, many seasons. If we don't win another Championship, I'm fine. Of course we have our eyes on the prize and expect we will win it. We have five seasons and I shudder to think how good we will be in just one or two more seasons. Above all, every player/coach/parent can look each other in the eye and know we are a true team. Have any of you coaches teamed up with another coach? Please note I see nothing wrong with doing this whatsoever. It seems en vogue in the older leagues. I've seen teams with class coaches and class players combine and thought it was great. I simply have too many players/families that I am loyal to. I know this will make us even more challenged (turning down athletes like this) but we are all committed to each other. Plus it's fun to watch how the kids grow as athletes. ;-)
  9. I can attest to this. I have a good friend who has spent a FORTUNE on his son with private coaches, football camps, etc. This past season (his first for school football), his son did not even make the 7th grade team. You can imagine how devastating it was. I can assure there were probably a lot of kids who did make the team that had never even played tackle before.
  10. I have two questions for you coaches, as I would like everyone's thoughts on the subject of commitment from your teams' parents. 1. Have you ever spoken with a parent about his/her lack of commitment to your team? 2. What do you consider subpar commmitment (to the point you would say something)? This season I had a player who unexpectedly missed three games (including our last two). No explaination other than "Jeff will not be at the game tomorrow, I'm sorry for the late notice". I am the first to understand that "life happens". However, a few coaches I spoke with kept asking me "Doesn't that tick you off? I would not have that." etc. The problem is that I REALLY like this kid (as do all my players). I know it is not his fault he had to miss. I also understand things do happen, but I've never had a player miss three games. If not for how highly I think of this player, I would probably not invite him back, but just can't bring myself to do that.
  11. When the playoff bracket came out, I was a little taken aback as we were pitted against the best team in our league in the first round (and we are a top 3 team). This is that "All-Star" team I noted in the second post above that has players going in to the 8th grade. Not sure of the logic of our teams playing in the first round--but it is what it is. We ended up losing, but fought them tooth and nail in a close, exciting game. At one point midway through the fourth quarter, we were down 12-0 and had the ball FIRST AND GOAL from the ONE YARD LINE. I'm thinking "Okay, we can score, get the xtra point, hold them on defense and then hopefully score on our final possession." I actually felt pretty good about it, until... We run a high-percentage passing play (Quad left, Center Flood Pass). My son threw a decent ball but the Center was tightly covered. Our Center and their DB wrestled for the ball, and our Center lost. Interception! I felt really bad for my son. He handled it okay. He's been around, and he knows the reason we were even at the one yard line was because of the incredible drive he put together. To that end, this team had a player that put on the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen. He was big, probably twice as fast as any player on my team, and they put him right in the middle (about four yards deep). No matter which way we went with the ball, he got there. I imagine he had about 15 flags in this game. By the second half, it became a chess-match between this kid and I, as I was pulling out all the stops to take him out of the game. It was fun because I got him a few times and he got us a few times. We were able to move the ball well, and made it within 10 yards of the end zone three times (one yard line, five yard line, and eight yard line) but came up short each time. This team is a class act top-to-bottom. They will win our Championship, in fact it's the best team we have ever played. All in all it was a good season. We had a winning season and were only soundly beaten once (the first time we played this team). I would have liked to see the players go further in the playoffs (for gutting it out so much), but we just ended up with the bad draw in the tourney bracket. More frustrating was that we beat the other teams on our side of the bracket--so I feel we would have played this team in the Championship game instead of the first round--although I know they would have beat us then too. I'm already looking forward to the fall season.
  12. This is the "great question" that most of us are faced with---and I don't think there is a right or wrong answer. From a coaching perspective--I have no desire to coach tackle. I've been encouraged to do so from parents and a league, but have little interest. Orange makes a good point about time-investment, although we already practice/prepare like a tackle team. As a coach, my concern is desire to win at all costs in tackle. There is no such thing as "rec tackle football" here, so if I got into it I would completely throw away my "rec philosophy" and would go for the throat of every team we faced--and I'm sure I would do fine. However, I simply don't want that level of intensity (it's not why I coach). As for my son--he is facing the same dillema. Here in Texas, a lot--if not most--kids go straight to tackle. He has a lot of friends that play tackle, and he's asked about it (he's 10). If my son were "large", I would probably do it. However, he's tall and lanky (as my wife says, he's "long"). Consequently, I imagine he would be placed in a skill position on offense, and on defense probably a DB. Thus to me, there would not be a lot of blocking/tackling required of him, so I don't think he's missing much--not enough to put him at a disadvantage as to when he does play tackle--which will be at school (I think our district begins tackle at sixth grade).
  13. In our last two games, our offense has simply destroyed M2M defensive teams. I hope no one takes this the wrong way, but I see no reason to run this defense unless 90% of your team can tightly cover the offense and break on the ball when needed. To attack M2M, all a coach needs to do is send the defense wherever he wants it to go. It's like an orchestra, as the offensive coach just needs to move the defense one way, and hit them in the opposite direction. Zone is a lot more difficult to coach, but it pays tremendous dividends. The kids will pick it up after a few games, and you build on it from there. I'm curious to hear from the coaches on here who run M2M, and how it's worked for you. As mentioned, if you have the athletes to do it, it works. However, it can be exploited if you don't have tremendous talent. Thanks!
  14. We had our final regular season game against a new team. I've seen a few of those players on other teams before. Most of the coaches in our league "stack rank" their teams (meaning they bring back their best players and leave the other to the 'field'). Not all, but most do. This team was basically the 'field'. For the first time in two seasons in our 10-12 league, we had the better athletes--and this team was not disciplined at all. Honestly, I don't remember the score (one of my players told me in the first quarter it was 19-0). This team played man-to-man. After our first play, I switched to my "man" playbook. I'll give you an example of how bad it was. We called a "Statue of Liberty" play. Everyone runs a go route while a receiver out wide comes around and gets the ball. Simple play. After he got the ball he started running (no one was near him). He kept running, and I noticed the defense never even turned around to look. They simply chased my players, WITH THEIR BACKS TO THE BALL-CARRIER the entire play. So my player had the ball and was running about five feet behind the defenders all the way down the field. It was one of the most bizarre plays I've ever seen. In these type of games, it's very difficult to not run up the score. I just tried to slow the game down and call very basic plays. I think we had five picks on defense. I thought about asking my players to take a knee if they got a pick late in the game--but sometimes that can be taken the wrong way. In fact the only time we've ever taken a knee was last season when we had a coach just throwing a fit because we were beating his team, which he obviously thought was going to steamroll my players. That was my little message. In the end, you just have refrain from celebrating too much after TDs, INTs, etc. and be very business-like. I personally don't like games like this because you just feel so bad for the other team (and their coach was a class act).
  15. I probably should have elaborated. My player was running with the ball on his way to the end zone (past the LOS) when his knee hit the ball and it popped out. A defender got it (before the ball hit the ground) and ran it back. Technically the official called it an "interception" which is odd--seeing as it was way past the LOS, and we can't "throw forward" past the LOS of scrimmage. I view it as a fumble. If the ball hits the ground in our league the play is dead at that spot. I did not argue the call. Our rule book does not cover this--but if I were defining the rules I would allow "loose balls" like this to be returned. We have a video of last season, but the dad who took it did not put it online. I'll talk to him again (I know we want to get parent's permission for this). Thanks
  16. We played a double header: Game 1: We faced LAST season's "runner-up". This was also the team who gave us our worst defeat last season. Consequently, I was curious as to how far we've progressed. This team had all their (good) players from the previous season. 70% of this team are bigger and faster than my guys--so it was a nice measuring stick to see if we have gained any ground on them. The good news: We lost 18-6. FIRST play of the game, they return an interception for a TD. While my players won't admit it out loud, I could see some of them were thinking, "Oh boy." However, they hung in there. I gave a good half-time speech, telling the players to just play with pride. How they are battle-tested, they've won championships together, been whooped together, but at the end of the day no one can take away what WE stand for and ALL of our team's accomplishments. I actually got weirded out during this time as there were some people hanging around our huddle who were not a part of our team nor our opponents. One thing about my team--when we play, people will stop down and watch to see how we are doing against some of these monster opponents. It's mainly because of the age/size/skill differential. We have become a bit of a novelty act since last season. I hear parents all the time "I've watched this team before--they don't look like much but play like little professionals. Let's stick around and watch them", etc. My kids know this, and sometimes I think it puts a little pressure on them when the odds are stacked so high against them. Most of them simply want to see us whip older opponents. For the most part we do this, but it is difficult to do against certain teams like this one. The better news: We thoroughly outplayed this team in the second half. We were about to make it 18-12 in the second half (the loudest I have ever heard a crowd), but my RB fumbled on our opponents five yard line, and it was returned by the defense to our five yard line. I told the team, how we've made our point in the second half, and the only way to cap it off is to stop them--which they did. I was VERY proud of my team. Game 2: This was a new team we had never faced. They had won some games coming in, so I knew they were not terrible. We were fortunate enough to win 27-0 (and of course I took my foot off the gas early). Usually a new coach will get very embarassed when we take it to them, but this guy was cool. Funny story--During the game I heard one player from the other side ask his mom, "Why are you clapping?" after we made a big play. She told him, "I'm sorry--that was a great play, and I have to clap for that." I felt for the kid, as that is what my mom would do. Geez, moms can be so embarassing'- ;-) We have we have one more regular season game against another new team I've never faced, so we'll see how we do against them. More than anything, I was most proud of how well we played in the second half of our first game. We actually put a little scare in that team--which was all I could ask for. ;-)
  17. Tough loss--sounds like the ball just bounced the wrong way. We've been fortunate enough to lose only once in a Championship game years ago, but that team was simply better than us, so it was easy to swallow--if that makes sense. I can understand the heat too. Here in Texas its already triple digits. A few seasons ago we had a fiasco where we played our July tournament in 110 heat. We played three games that day and made it to the Championships. We were even joking after our second game we would not mind losing our third so we could just go home. It was so hot and everyone exhausted after our third game, our league actually made the decision to move the Championship game. Ever since then our Spring tournament spans and entire week where we play in the evenings--much better.
  18. Very good point. That is truly how one is measured from outside. Heck, after each game my son calls my mom, and the first thing my mom asks him is "Did you win?" Not "Did you play well?" or "Did you have fun?" We take the field to execute as a team in hopes of winning a game. If our execution ends up in allowing us to win--all the better! Every season we will face one or two teams that give forth an unbelievably lack-luster effort. You've all seen this team. The one where it's blatantly obvious they hardly practice. They run four different plays--and none of them work. While the coach does everything to make it a fun experience, his lack of dedication for what he signed up for shines through brightly. Note: While I roll my eyes at this attitude, I'd still rather see this then an over-zealous coach who is demeaning his players for every mistake. In the end, it's a balancing act of winning--but doing it the right way--that defines the upper-tier "rec coaches" in my opinion.
  19. It sounds like you have a good game plan. If I had the ability to equally break my team up into two squads--I would love that. Your philosophy is spot on in my opinion. I have to go overboard sometimes to NOT focus on the scoreboard, but to focus on one thing and one thing only: execution. I also like the way you expect gentlemenly conduct. Being on my team is an honor. I know this might come across the wrong way, but I have a slew of requests for my team each season (all formers, and the rest from word of mouth). I have no problem letting the players know that the honor of being on our team comes from the fact they were hand-picked. Not because of their athletic prowess, but because they are true gentlemen. We have a high-standard, and that standard is well-known to all in our league. Go to battle with kids that you know have heart, dedication, and discipline...and the wins will come, regardless of how athletic they are.
  20. Rob, I recall your "rant" on this subject. ;-) Actually, it was one of the best-written responses I've ever read on this forum. I believe every "rec" coach, at some point, will be faced with the decision: coach the right way, or go for wins. Coaching the "right way", IMO is all about player development. That is your focus is as much on the lesser-skilled players as anyone, and you do everything in your power to ensure all players have equal opportunity to decide the outcome of your games. Said differently, you don't simply rely on your top player(s) to carry the team in hopes of winning a game. Going for wins is not too difficult. You either construct a team of athletes, prevent lesser-skilled players from joining your team, and/or rely on your top player(s) to decide the outcome. I have been incredibly fortunate. While I don't have a group of talented athletes, I DO have a group of character guys, all of whom have been loyal to our cause for many, many seasons. Due to cohesiveness, we have won championships and remained competetive in the seasons we have not. However, it makes it a LOT more fun when you do succeed, as all the players can look each other in the eye and know that each of them were resonsible for the team's overall success. There are some incredibly experienced coaches who do believe it is all about winning regardless of the league. That's okay too. After all you do play to the game to win. As long as they don't thump their chests too loudly after defeating a team that is more intent on player development, I'm cool with it. I mentioned how we have a "select" league around here. A few seasons ago we had a coach in our league who was ALL about winning. So much so, he decided to take his team to the select league so he could "face better competition". He lasted one season in that league, and they did not win a game. Ha! He's now back in our league. It's funny because the only success he can have is to play select football in a rec league.
  21. Schann, about ten miles from our house-there actually is a "select" flag football leagues (starting at 5-6 year old). While they don't use the term "select", they treat it like a select league. They have team try-outs, a draft, and there is no guarantee your child will even make a team--and it is 100% about winning. In fact, about seven or eight seasons ago, I had a player who came from that league. I remember after our first practice I emailed the parents that I would start assigning positions in the next practice. This kid's parents got very antsy, sending me a flood of emails about how good their child is ("he can catch on the run"), the experience he has, etc. They even offered to put me in touch with his former coach if I had questions. I told them to relax as everyone would get the ball equally. Ironically, the kid ended up being a mediocre player. With that, this is an interesting topic. I would probably email the coach and ask him if my son is going to have a chance to play offense during the season. If the coach responded with a tactful, well-thought out response as to his approach (and his intentions seem genuine) then I would leave it at that. If he's terse in his response (or worse yet does not even respond), I would talk to my son and if he wants to keep playing...I'd grin and bear it, and then give your feedback to the league after the season. Last summer I did not coach my son in a sport (basketball) for the first time since he was four. I was VERY lucky as the coach supported each player being accountable and everyone played equally, etc. The problem was that my wife probably understands basketball more than he did (and that is not a compliment). Regardless I would rather take that extreme with a kind-hearted coach than one who is only concered with winning games.
  22. I guess if protocol for this rule is to allow the play to unfold without noting the infraction until AFTER the play---then it was legit. I just cannot think of any infractions that are not called at the moment they occur. We have a 7-second rule. In this instance the QB is down at the spot he was when the play was blown dead. Luckily our rule book does notate what happens if the QB is in the end zone--it's a safety. Regardless, the play is blown dead at the time the infraction occurs. Anything that happened prior to that (pass attempt, run, or sack) is counted because it occured prior to the call being made. Anyway, it's better to debate it here, than on the field. ;-)
  23. I was worried going into our last game because we were without our top player, but we managed to win 28-0. My son threw an interception in the second play of the game--and our opponents went nuts. One of my players overheard an opposing player say, "This team is too small to play with us." We actually hear that all the time, so it doesn't phase the kids--in fact they like it. However, it quickly became obvious who the better-prepared team was. It was one of those games where I had to get creative to not run up the score. Our opponents were bigger/older, but it was obvious they had not practiced much. They threw the ball every single play and I don't think they crossed mid-field once. The win was bittersweet, however, for two reasons: 1. I could not get the ball to two different players. This was because we only ran a limited number of plays. We'd get the ball and immediately score. Our opponents would be on offense for a long time (taking forever in the huddle), we'd stop them...get the ball back and immediately score, etc. Looking at my play sheet (where I track each play), we ran only 12 plays--including extra points. 2. There was a moment where it might have seemed I was running up the score, but I was not. Essentially, one of my players scored two long TDs (the only two times he got the ball up to that point). Late in the fourth, the team announced they were going to blitz. I called our RB Statue of Liberty play on accident. Yep...I actually meant to call another play, but because I'm so used to calling our Statue play on blitzes, I said one thing but meant another. Of course, our RB gets it and goes the length of the field. Thus this player got the ball three times, and scored three long TDs. I felt like going to the coach to let him know I really did not intend on getting it to that player, but then figured, why bother. I knew I was not running up the score, as if I wanted to it would have been much, much worse--and I think they knew that. So, we are 2-2 (it would be 3-1 if not for the hail mary in our first game)--so we've really only been out-played once. Our next opponent is an INCREDIBLE team who beat us in the playoffs last season, and they are loaded with some monsters again this season. I have no illusions of us winning, I just want us to compete and making ourselves proud.
  24. Rickref, Thanks for the insite. It's good to hear from an experienced official. In thinking about this, I'm wondering if it really is the right call---playing devil's advocate here. ;-) As TeeDub23 stated, his team rushed the QB and took his flag in the end zone. It appears the official "called it off" after the fact. Consequently, in your mind did time really expire? The official never indicated time expired until after the sack.... so it was a non-call. If he threw his flag and/or blew his whistle and called the play dead before the sack--then I understand. However, it appears he called it after the sack, then the sack happened first. (I hope this makes sense.) An analogy is in tackle. Let's say you officiated a game and the play clock ran out before the Center snapped the ball, but no one called it. If an official came to you after the play and noted the play clock expired but because no one blew a whistle or threw a flag, does the play stand? I don't think officials should have the ability to make a call after the fact. It's like saying, "I meant to throw a flag, but I didn't." We all agree that is a slippery slope there. Interesting to think about either way. Thanks!
  25. You sir, have gained my complete respect with this sort of attitude. In the end, that is really all you can do (it's not like your going to change the official's decision). Of course everyone is watching you how act in that situation, so hold your head high knowing you handled it with class. Everyone who saw it knows...
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