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  1. I think the best play is one that gives the QB options. Not an option as in run, but a couple options to throw to. For your age group, I think the best deep pass is a go (fly) route. If the QB can throw deep, teach him to throw to a spot and have the WR run to it. It is a simple read of the corner back. To give him options and assuming the play goes to his strong side (assume right), have the WR on the right side run a go route, have the center do a 5 to 10 yard out to the right side. Have your QB scramble right and all he has to do is read the right corner back. If the corner back goes with the go route, hit the center on the out route. If the corner back gets beat or stays short, hit the WR on the go route. At 13 years old, you could probably even put in a slot WR on the right and have him hit a 10 yard curl or out. Then you effectively have a flood right with the WR on a deep go, the slot on a 10 yard out and the center on a 5 yard out. Your QB is scrambling to the strong side and has 3 options. If they are playing a zone D, someone will always be open. Also, corners from the center position are deadly if you can execute them well.
  2. Playing around with a newer version of Premiere Pro and using slow motion. Several clips from this past weekend. 2nd/3rd grade 5v5. For some reason, google defaults to a lower quality, if you click the little gear in the lower right corner, you can select 720p HD and it is better quality video (even on full screen). Not quite Whiskey Alpha quality video, but slow mo turned out pretty smooth. Click here. https://docs.google....N2xNa29UM0lGYXM How are you getting these videos to embed in the forum? Thanks.
  3. I know right! This spring we are a select team of 2nd and 3rd graders (8 and 9 year old kids). 5v5 with 25 yards to go to midfield and 25 yards to go end zone in 3 downs. QB can throw it 25-30 yards with accuracy and I have 3-4 kids that can catch it pretty well. I agree, most kids this age cant throw very well or catch very well. We are undefeated in our spring league and have beat the other 2/3 select teams and some 4th/5th grade teams. The league commish is trying to schedule more 4/5 grade teams for competition. On my play sheet, I have 2 run plays, run right and run left. Literally. Two of my formations have no RB at all. If they start dropping back to cover the passes, we will run or hit quick slants to the WR more, but we truly do air it out. Over the last 3-4 seasons, we have won a couple of league championships and some open flag tournaments and have only been beat by 1 team (last spring). Not blowing our horn, just most teams cant defend us because we pass it so well. I guess my point was not to do what we do, but do what your team does well and do not try to make it complicated. If that is 4 plays, do it well. Our plays are simple, but we run them well (but we also have the skill to execute them). Keep it simple and run it well. That could be 90% run and 10% pass or vice versa. We are not the norm at this age for sure.
  4. LOL! You pretty much hit the nail on the head. I ran in to 1 singlewing offense last season and they were smaller with about 14 kids on the team. Their runners all squat down with their hands on the grass like sitting squatting around a camp fire and dump a snap to the ground. They would pick it up and run off tackle. I was like, what the........... Granted it was effective. We battled it out with them and lost 12-6. However, they did nickle and dime us down the field. I agree with everything you said and understand the benefits of the system. Good luck, was just curious as to your thoughts. I have a hard time getting away from the direct snap offense. We have a good QB and he knows the steps and takes snaps well. I like the play action and like to throw the ball a little more. Flag update for us: The commish has added a game to our schedule this Saturday. He is letting us play one of the better 4/5th grade teams. I know nothing about them, but it should be a good game. We will see.
  5. Being a flag coach, what made you go singlewing offense? Singlewing is totally opposite than anything you can do in flag. I use spring flag as an extension to tackle and try to use the same concepts and plays, just based only on the skill positions.
  6. Coach, I agree, what are you trying to do with motion? What age group is this? Motion is used to create an unbalanced line or to give your team a numbers advantage at the point of attack. I assume you are using motion before the snap? If you are in the younger ages, I would think that most teams will play you in a standard zone. Just line them up with trips right or left and make them stop you. Most teams will not move and stay in their zone 2-3 or 3-2. If you are playing in the older age groups, the might adjust over. I can understand using motion then to cause some confusion, but I doubt it. Very rarely do I see motion in youth flag football. Unless they play man. I have seen teams stack 3 kids on the left, have a center and QB and the defense stays in the zone defense. Flood the left and you are basically playing 4 on 2 because they are rushing you and have a safety on the right side and a LB on the right side. That leaves the left CB and the left LB to guard all those kids. Just my 2 cents.
  7. Your defenses are spot on. The only issues I have with you playbook is the multiple fakes. In our league, we can rush 7 yards back and most teams will. That is about enough time to fake once effectively. If you faked two routes, you would be sacked every time in our league. I love a good play action, but incorporate a bootleg out of it and flood to one side. If the rusher goes with the fake, all day to throw on an overload flood. Maybe they dont rush, then you are fine. I would rush at the QB and let the LBs handle the hand offs. Otherwise, I like the look and the simplicity of the playbook. I think that is key for this age. Good luck.
  8. 2nd/3rd grade level 5v5. I have 1 thick letter size sheet that has 16 plays on it. Really, it is 6 plays right with the same 6 plays left with 4 straight up plays. We have a base formation, twins formation, trips formation (no back) and a double stack formation. Pass 80%, run 20% typically. I am a believer that run what you are good at and keep it simple. Most of our routes are go routes, slants, outs, posts and corners. If you are good at 4 plays, run them well and make them stop you.
  9. Love the play by play. It has been a while since I looked on this site (my focus has shifted to tackle football), but we are in the middle of our spring flag season. We are playing 5v5 2nd/3rd grade level as well. One practice a week. The league we play in is kind of strange in that it allows select teams and rec teams. We are a select team which means we brought our own kids and didnt draft the kids. So, we are better balanced. There are 8 teams with about half select and half rec. So far, we are 4-0 in our division (playing all the select teams) and 1-0 playing up against 4th/5th grade. Highlights for season so far: Taught every kid the passing tree. Being a select team, we have used some of the practices as more individual skills training than team practices. In other words, we are teaching each kid each position in a high number of reps. We are not running plays over and over kind of practice. Every kid has scored. We have a couple of kids that have very little experience playing with us. Beat a 4th/5th grade team. So far so good. Our strength is that we have a good QB with good kids that can catch. We probably pass 80% of the time and run 20%. The league is 3 downs to go 25 yards for the first down (mid field) and then 3 downs to go 25 yards to the end zone. So, we have to move the ball far in a small amount of tries. However, that plays to our strength as we can throw it 25 yards pretty accurately. Most teams cant do that. Just thought I would share our highlights so far. Keep us posted.
  10. At this age and with the rules as I understand, there is more need for quick passes or passes to spots since the rush can come fast and often. I coach youth and play adult league. The 7-man leagues allow the QB to run. If the QB can run, I am all for an option formation that can go either left or right, so almost a wishbone formation with 2 RBs on either side of the QB. You can have 2 WRs on one side and 1 WR on the other of the LOS. On the strong side with 2 WR, have them line up wide and close to each other. Have the outside WR run a go route to stretch the CB deep. Have the inside WR run a quick slant short across the field. If the QB can read the defense, have them run option to the strong side. He will have a route going deep, one going short (slant) going across in opposite direction and a pitch man (RB) for the option or he can keep it. In terms of misdirection, in youth this works very well with play action passes and roll out as the kids will go for the fake. At this age, probably not so much, but that doesnt mean you cant do it. For example, I ran this play with success just last week. This was 5v5 and they were rushing me hard at QB. The defense was lined up pretty deep and were dropping deep to cover the go routes. So, I took the shotgun snap and immediately ran left. The rusher chased me and I had the slot WR cut in front of me and take the handoff for a reverse. The rusher never saw him coming and after he got the ball, he was open for 20 yards easy as the go routes cleared out the defense. So, it was a little misdirection with a reverse from the slot position. OR, have the slot take the handoff and then he has the option to run or throw as long as he is behind the LOS. Just some examples I have used. However, the real threat is the passing and if you have a QB that can throw it, I love nothing more than go routes and quick slants. If they are playing tight defense, have the QB throw to a spot 30 yards down the sideline and have the WR just out run the D on a go route. If they start to back off, hit them with quick slants and then cut up field. Take what the defense gives you. I know it is easier said than done, but flag is all about the QB and passing. Simple is best and usually works. I use the passing tree in my adult league and sometimes I will call the plays from the formation so I can see what the D is giving me. If I see a hole, I call a route to get there and hit them quickly. I think teenagers can do this as well.
  11. College and adult league 7 on 7 "screen" flag football is a rush from anywhere game. Typically 1 yard off the ball. You can typically rush any number of people. Sometimes, the offense will put in "screen" blockers to counter the rush, but I dont like the style. Screen blockers are players that can move with their hands behind their backs and basically set a moving basketball screen. No contact is really allowed except to get past the blocker. The offense will have to attack with quick hit passes and misdirection type plays. However, I would say that this is not a good style for 12-13 year old kids as the rush can come very fast if you are not prepared for it. I have played against some teams (as an adult) that literally took a shotgun snap with the QB about 12-15 yards deep. It was like a punt snap to a QB. It was not fun rushing that QB.
  12. In flag football, 5 seconds is a long time to hold the ball. I wouldnt rush at all unless you play a team that just lets the QB hold it and the WR run around until someone got open. I would play a 2-3 as I would be more concerned about the deep pass. In the 5v5 leagues I have coached and played, you have 3 or 4 downs to go to midfield and then 3 or 4 downs to the endzone. Typically, 25-35 yards or so on a set of downs. The deep passes are dangerous. If they are using a RB, I would have the front 2 for the run and a deeper safety and the two corners playing deeper. Keep everything in front of you. You could have one of the front kids pressure the QB after the 5 seconds, but I would be surprised if QBs hold the ball that long. We have always played where you rush 7 yards back from the LOS. Even then, I dont rush as much. If I played you and you played a 3-2 (3 up front) or the 2-3 with the middle safety cheating up to rush, I would send 3 deep and hit you down the middle or down the sides if you cheated in. Simple go routes on each side and my center right down the middle. Only when you started playing me on the deep pass and I started to run or quick slants, leaving me with 3rd and long, would I be worried. Just my thoughts. Go with a 2-3 and worry about the deep passes first, then make sure you flag pull well for the short routes. Oh, can the QB run after 5 seconds? That might change things. Have one of the front kids play run and then rush or mirror the QB.
  13. This is a great idea. Having coached my son in flag and this past fall I coached him in full tackle and will say that part of the issue with the transition is the fact they have all this gear on and helmets and it takes some getting use to. So, this eliminates that "getting use to" while makes them feel comfortable about not getting smashed. Throwing and catching with pads and helmets takes some time to get use to. Now, I say that the only issue will be breaking that fear of hitting or taking a hit. I say there is about a 2-3 year learning curve to fulling get comfortable with the concept. That is a neat league. I wish we had something around here like that.
  14. Have the center run a go route right down the middle of the field where the rusher is coming from. We stack a side and pump fake the quick pass there and then hit a 20 yard bomb down the middle. TD most of the time. Teams learn quick not to rush me from their safety position.
  15. I agree, I was at first like wow, how did they not call that and then read the bottom of you post. I bet those kids were going bonkers! At this age, the false start had no impact on the play, but as long as it was called like that both ways. Reminds me of a game I had this season where we hit a TE on a deep corner route and took it home. The ref called me for illegal lineman down field. One of my guards didnt have a kid lined up in front and went to the next level to block. It was on the opposite side of the field and I was like what impact did that have on the play, none! Oh well, they are a litte more serious in our league. Congrats on the 2nd place! Sad that the seasons are coming to an end.
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