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[the.snowman]

Ok well I just found out the other day that we are actually going to be playing 7 on 7, but apparently it will be up to the coaches at game time if we want to play 8 on 8 so everyone can play. With this being said, I was really preparing for 5 on 5 and running a 3 2 zone or 2 3 zone. Now that it is 7 on 7, not quite sure what to play. I like the idea of leaving 1 person kind of roaming and daring them to throw deep. So I thought maybe some sort of 3 4 zone with 1 deep playing like a free safety or something that would roam? Any ideas or suggestions. This is my first year as a assistant, but I am hoping to be a head coach for the fall league which is tackle. They have a good system in place based on points and who gets to be head coach of the fall league. They encourage you to attend schools, meetings, etc..etc.. all these give you more points. Looking forward to reading replies.

[Texas_D_Coach]

Thanks alot for the fast reply. My main concern is really in running a zone i know alot of zone defenses i have seen on here so far was almost always with some sort of rush envolved. Which deffinitely makes since because it doesnt give the quarterback time to just sit back in the pocket and throw. But when we arent allowed to rush the quarterback I was just worried that the zone may not work in my particular case. I guess im just kind of over reactiing I think since this is my first year as a asst. coach/ and in charge of the defense.

Even if you can't rush the QB, I think a zone is still your best option. Remember that the offense you face will be a mixture of run and pass, and the zone is MUCH more effective at containing the run than M2M.

If you can't rush and you run M2M you will probably be worse off, because their better athletes will get open eventually, and the QB will have all day to pick you apart with crossing routes and such.

[the.snowman]

Well we had our first game sunday we tied 21 to 21 in the very last play with no time left with about a 30 yard touch down pass hail mary style play, it was a great game. My problem i am having which kind of puts my hands tied is since i am just the assistant. The head coach and myself have really different views. The head coach really is not organized at all. He doesnt practise any plays, doesnt run a defense. He just kind of shows up 5 minutes before the game and about comes late to the practises. We had 3 to 4 people extra on the field almost every time. Luckily i was on the sidelines to keep letting them know we had too many men on the field. We dont really practise defense at all, which is the reason it was even tied. We couldnt really grab flags at all. He basically said everyone grab a man and just go at it. I guess its not much i can really do in this situation cept sit back and watch. I am hopefully going to be a head coach for fall tackle football.

[Texas_D_Coach]

Well we had our first game sunday we tied 21 to 21 in the very last play with no time left with about a 30 yard touch down pass hail mary style play, it was a great game. My problem i am having which kind of puts my hands tied is since i am just the assistant. The head coach and myself have really different views. The head coach really is not organized at all. He doesnt practise any plays, doesnt run a defense. He just kind of shows up 5 minutes before the game and about comes late to the practises. We had 3 to 4 people extra on the field almost every time. Luckily i was on the sidelines to keep letting them know we had too many men on the field. We dont really practise defense at all, which is the reason it was even tied. We couldnt really grab flags at all. He basically said everyone grab a man and just go at it. I guess its not much i can really do in this situation cept sit back and watch. I am hopefully going to be a head coach for fall tackle football.

I see where you're coming from. I wasn't happy with my son's coach a couple of years ago (and he was a lot better coach than it sounds like you're dealing with), and that is how I became a head coach myself.

The bottom line is you have to practice your plays over and over again to be able to run them correctly in a game. The teams that are the most succesful are the ones that do that, and not only offensive plays. Coaching is teaching, and so you have to explain to the kids where you want them to be, and what their responsibilities are on every play.

I would still vocalize your opinions if your son is playing on the team. Everyone's (coaches and parents, and especially coaches/assistant coaches) opinions are valid, and should be considered. If he has a good reason to run things the way he does have him explain it to you. If not, see if he'll try it your way for awhile.

[the.snowman]

Well we had our first game sunday we tied 21 to 21 in the very last play with no time left with about a 30 yard touch down pass hail mary style play, it was a great game. My problem i am having which kind of puts my hands tied is since i am just the assistant. The head coach and myself have really different views. The head coach really is not organized at all. He doesnt practise any plays, doesnt run a defense. He just kind of shows up 5 minutes before the game and about comes late to the practises. We had 3 to 4 people extra on the field almost every time. Luckily i was on the sidelines to keep letting them know we had too many men on the field. We dont really practise defense at all, which is the reason it was even tied. We couldnt really grab flags at all. He basically said everyone grab a man and just go at it. I guess its not much i can really do in this situation cept sit back and watch. I am hopefully going to be a head coach for fall tackle football.

I see where you're coming from. I wasn't happy with my son's coach a couple of years ago (and he was a lot better coach than it sounds like you're dealing with), and that is how I became a head coach myself.

The bottom line is you have to practice your plays over and over again to be able to run them correctly in a game. The teams that are the most succesful are the ones that do that, and not only offensive plays. Coaching is teaching, and so you have to explain to the kids where you want them to be, and what their responsibilities are on every play.

I would still vocalize your opinions if your son is playing on the team. Everyone's (coaches and parents, and especially coaches/assistant coaches) opinions are valid, and should be considered. If he has a good reason to run things the way he does have him explain it to you. If not, see if he'll try it your way for awhile.

Well his reasoning for running things the way he does is because he says we dont have enough time. Which imo we have 1 hour which yes it isnt alot of time but i feel its enough to atleast teach fundamentals. We lost this past game 28 to 14 , the head of the league actually talked to him saying the other team complained about how much time we spent in the huddle. And he even told him he needed plays. His reply was if he ran plays it would take even longer. He wont practise defense at all so none of the kids really know or understand how to grab the flag or run any sort of defensive sets. Luckily i will be heading the practise sunday because we have a bye so hopefully i can atleast get some sort of plays and defensive sets in. Hopefully i will be able to work on the kids being able to grab the flag and angle tackling.

[upser]

I'm new at 5 on 5 flag. I have a question for you guys running zone defense.

If receiver runs a GO and a slot/back/center/anybody runs into the flat who is covering who?

does your corner let the WR go and the safety is supposed to come over the top?
does your corner go deep and your backer get to the flats? if so, doesn't a quick run fake hold the backer and leave the flats open?

ON PAPER it looks like a quick run fake and easy short pass to the flats may be open all day. I wanted to know what really happens in games.
thanks for your help!

Mav

We do what we call a push.. its when the receiver runs past the outside guy fast then we yell push and the safety then takes him but if both sides have that happen only the first kid to yell can release the guy running. that takes away that flat pass and quick 5 yard run. but your safety needs to be a very good and smart player to be able to check both sides of the field and make his move to either side.