Game 5: W 18-6
6 Possessions 3 Scores. We moved the ball down the field on 2 out of the 3 other possessions, got stopped once and ran out of time on the last plays before the half.
We did not play well but still moved the ball, not sharp. Late Afternoon game, maybe or it could be I've added a bit too much into the Offense and haven't repped it enough. It seemed like today the other team's rusher was getting into our backfield very quickly and pressuring us on our passes. We had several broken plays and a bit too much confusion.
A couple of things.
Our routes are not sharp, the short man is often "drifting down" the field making it possible to cover 2 of our receivers with 1 Defender. We have to tighten up our routes. QB are waiting too long and not hitting receivers early enough in the pattern when they are open.
We were not very aggressive on Defense. Two many hand-offs where the DE not coming across the line to apply pressure to the play. We have not repped this on Defense lately. I don't know that we will, i think our practice time could be better used on other concepts, most of the teams we will face favor the pass quite a bit and we got burned deep again after telling the player on the previous 3 plays not to let anyone behind and too stay home.
I was hopeful to get our last 3 in the end-zone....I don't think we are going to make it. If we are leading next week i will make it a goal to get the other 3 plenty of chances in the 2nd Half.
Just seemed a bit flat overall. It happens, but I don't like to regress and I feel like we are regressing.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:56 AM
8th Practice
Couple of kids sick and need to remember not to schedule a practice on take your kid to work day. Had 7 out of 11 at practice.
Spent 1st 20 minutes working Post and Out patterns along with coachig the QBs on 3 Step drop and making a strong throw.
We then ran though our entire playbook rotating playes in and out making sure the plays looked solid, this took about 35 to 40 minutes.
Spent the last 15 minutes playing 2 new flag pulling games:
1.) Rabbit Chasers - 10 x 10 yard box. 1 Rabbit in the middle. 4 Chasers on the cones. Rabbit has to survive fo 6 seconds. Flag puller becomes Rabbit other players have to hustle back to a cone if they want in for the next drill. Only had the Rabbit survive 2 times. Opened up the box a bit more, 10 x 10 is too tight at 2/3 age.
2.) Deer Hunter - Opened the box up to about 20 x 20. Had 7 players so 2 Hunters. Hunters pull the deer flags, last 2 deer become the hunters for next round.
Kids enjoyed alot and we got a lot of flag pulls in and so some pretty entertaing pulls, kids diving, lunging, etc. Kids were breathing very hard at the end (one was actually on his back with hands above his head but asking for more & jumped back in).
Couple of kids sick and need to remember not to schedule a practice on take your kid to work day. Had 7 out of 11 at practice.
Spent 1st 20 minutes working Post and Out patterns along with coachig the QBs on 3 Step drop and making a strong throw.
We then ran though our entire playbook rotating playes in and out making sure the plays looked solid, this took about 35 to 40 minutes.
Spent the last 15 minutes playing 2 new flag pulling games:
1.) Rabbit Chasers - 10 x 10 yard box. 1 Rabbit in the middle. 4 Chasers on the cones. Rabbit has to survive fo 6 seconds. Flag puller becomes Rabbit other players have to hustle back to a cone if they want in for the next drill. Only had the Rabbit survive 2 times. Opened up the box a bit more, 10 x 10 is too tight at 2/3 age.
2.) Deer Hunter - Opened the box up to about 20 x 20. Had 7 players so 2 Hunters. Hunters pull the deer flags, last 2 deer become the hunters for next round.
Kids enjoyed alot and we got a lot of flag pulls in and so some pretty entertaing pulls, kids diving, lunging, etc. Kids were breathing very hard at the end (one was actually on his back with hands above his head but asking for more & jumped back in).
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:23 AM
Game 6: W 32-12
Team we played was actually okay on Defense, they had some speed and we had to work for most of our scores. They stayed home on the Reverese.
Scored on 2 Passes and 1 Run in the 1st Half. Converted 1 XP (I need to do a better job finding plays that will work for the XP, in a close game those are the differences).
2nd Half scored on 1 pass and 1 Run. Got stopped twice, 1st time when we fumbled the handoff and gave away a down. 2nd Time at end of the game when we were just running out the clock, not trying to score.
Got another player into the end-zone today. That makes 9 out of 11. Tried to get another in the End-Zone, it ain't gonna happen.
Gave up 2 scores when LB jumped route and missed, good teaching point for us.
I more regular season game, we play a 3rd game team, so we will see how it goes.
BTW if you are not running a "Fake WR Reverese" RB Keep, you are missing out, our RB could almost walk into the End Zone on this play when we run it, even when we don't show the reverese first.
Team we played was actually okay on Defense, they had some speed and we had to work for most of our scores. They stayed home on the Reverese.
Scored on 2 Passes and 1 Run in the 1st Half. Converted 1 XP (I need to do a better job finding plays that will work for the XP, in a close game those are the differences).
2nd Half scored on 1 pass and 1 Run. Got stopped twice, 1st time when we fumbled the handoff and gave away a down. 2nd Time at end of the game when we were just running out the clock, not trying to score.
Got another player into the end-zone today. That makes 9 out of 11. Tried to get another in the End-Zone, it ain't gonna happen.
Gave up 2 scores when LB jumped route and missed, good teaching point for us.
I more regular season game, we play a 3rd game team, so we will see how it goes.
BTW if you are not running a "Fake WR Reverese" RB Keep, you are missing out, our RB could almost walk into the End Zone on this play when we run it, even when we don't show the reverese first.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:59 AM
9th Practice
If you might have noticed if you have taken the time to read all these posts, I'm not big on scrimmaging much during practice. Might have done 30 to 40 minutes of total scrimmage to this point.
Been real busy, not only w/ work, but baseball is underway and we have been doing a lot of work for 2012 Tackle Season w/ recuirting and rules changes (my age group moved from 8 Man to 11 Man). So when I got to the practice field. I marked off a field and split the squads and declared we would be playing an intra-sqaud game. I always split my team by squads for the season and do my best to split them evenly. This year I kinda felt I may not have split them quite evenly, we added some new playes so I kept most of my returners together on 1 team and 2nd squad had the 4 new players. I thought maybe it wasn't quite even (Rookies might have a bit more talent), so this would be a good test. We will call them "Vets" vs "Rookies".
Rookies win the toss and declare they want to play Defense 1st. Vets go on a 7 play drive and punch it in on 4th Down for TD, XP no good. Rookies go 3 and out. Vets throw an INT on next series and Rookies punch it in. Vets again throw an INT but rookies fail to convert. We go into Half Time with a score of Rookies 8, Vets 6.
Now I coach my son as I'm sure most of us do. I've always felt I don't favor him (he's not the QB, etc). He's about a 5 or 6 on a scale of 1-10. He is fast but I've always had trouble getting him to play aggressively (run fast). I tease that he can't catch, it looks like he's getting into a fist fight with the ball when it's thrown to him while his 4 year old brother already looks the ball into his hands when he catches it. I had a goal of working some Indy pass reps with the kids this year but with the limited amount of time we only did that the last couple of weeks.
So when I split the teams I but him in as a RB (he does carry out his fakes well and when he runs hard he's hard to catch), I had 11 this year so the odd position out was RB, so he was in a rotation of 3. He's one of my 2 that haven't scored (he was sick last game when he would have had a good shot). So for the scrimage we were short 1 player so I put him at the WR position and gave a few RB carries to him as well. He's played on the "Rookie" Team.
Rookies open with the ball. I gohead and call WR Pass - PA to the RB, 1 Step Drop, WR on Fly Pattern (my son). Just want to really rep the PA and Drop plus rep the CB/OLB on not letting the WR behind him. What happens is QB throws a nice 15 to 18 yard pass with good arc and sprial, my son gets behind the CB/OLB and makes the catch and runs for about 30 yards. Total shock by me and the QB looked like young Brett Farve after a big play running around after the completion. Nice momement.
Rookies punch it in on 4th down and go up 14-6, each team gets a couple of more possession and goes 3 and out. We have about 3 minutes left so I declare this will be the last drive and turn the clock off, Vets have the ball. They covert a 3rd Down to get the 1st down. They move down a bit and it is 4th and goal from about the 12 or so. I call Pitch, Fake WR Reverse, RB Keep and let the RB know that he will basically have to beat our best flag puller to get in the end zone. I had taken a moment early to get on him and one other boy for making to many moves during the scrimmage and basically not taking the 5 to 7 yards on run plays and continuing to run hard at the flag puller to try and get a missed flag pull. Play goes off as expected and he ends up 1 on 1 on right on the End Zone line with our best flag puller, makes a quick move and gets into the End Zone. Pretty cool, Vets running around chest bumping and celebrating until the Rookies remind them they have to convert the XP.
Anti Climatic, they botch the snap/hand-off/QB opens wrong way, total mess on the XP. Games ends Rookies 14 - Vets 12.
If I run a flag season again, we will make this a tradition for the last practice, good times. There was some stuff to work on that we talked about but I won't bore you with the details.
One thing to notice, we have a 7 game season and only practiced 9 times so about 11 hours of total practice time with quite a few misses. Keep your instruction limited (and you play books). I almost feel like I added in too much.
Last game saturday against a 3rd grade team that is 6-0 (we are 5-1), should be a good game. I believe there will be an end of season tourney as well.
If you might have noticed if you have taken the time to read all these posts, I'm not big on scrimmaging much during practice. Might have done 30 to 40 minutes of total scrimmage to this point.
Been real busy, not only w/ work, but baseball is underway and we have been doing a lot of work for 2012 Tackle Season w/ recuirting and rules changes (my age group moved from 8 Man to 11 Man). So when I got to the practice field. I marked off a field and split the squads and declared we would be playing an intra-sqaud game. I always split my team by squads for the season and do my best to split them evenly. This year I kinda felt I may not have split them quite evenly, we added some new playes so I kept most of my returners together on 1 team and 2nd squad had the 4 new players. I thought maybe it wasn't quite even (Rookies might have a bit more talent), so this would be a good test. We will call them "Vets" vs "Rookies".
Rookies win the toss and declare they want to play Defense 1st. Vets go on a 7 play drive and punch it in on 4th Down for TD, XP no good. Rookies go 3 and out. Vets throw an INT on next series and Rookies punch it in. Vets again throw an INT but rookies fail to convert. We go into Half Time with a score of Rookies 8, Vets 6.
Now I coach my son as I'm sure most of us do. I've always felt I don't favor him (he's not the QB, etc). He's about a 5 or 6 on a scale of 1-10. He is fast but I've always had trouble getting him to play aggressively (run fast). I tease that he can't catch, it looks like he's getting into a fist fight with the ball when it's thrown to him while his 4 year old brother already looks the ball into his hands when he catches it. I had a goal of working some Indy pass reps with the kids this year but with the limited amount of time we only did that the last couple of weeks.
So when I split the teams I but him in as a RB (he does carry out his fakes well and when he runs hard he's hard to catch), I had 11 this year so the odd position out was RB, so he was in a rotation of 3. He's one of my 2 that haven't scored (he was sick last game when he would have had a good shot). So for the scrimage we were short 1 player so I put him at the WR position and gave a few RB carries to him as well. He's played on the "Rookie" Team.
Rookies open with the ball. I gohead and call WR Pass - PA to the RB, 1 Step Drop, WR on Fly Pattern (my son). Just want to really rep the PA and Drop plus rep the CB/OLB on not letting the WR behind him. What happens is QB throws a nice 15 to 18 yard pass with good arc and sprial, my son gets behind the CB/OLB and makes the catch and runs for about 30 yards. Total shock by me and the QB looked like young Brett Farve after a big play running around after the completion. Nice momement.
Rookies punch it in on 4th down and go up 14-6, each team gets a couple of more possession and goes 3 and out. We have about 3 minutes left so I declare this will be the last drive and turn the clock off, Vets have the ball. They covert a 3rd Down to get the 1st down. They move down a bit and it is 4th and goal from about the 12 or so. I call Pitch, Fake WR Reverse, RB Keep and let the RB know that he will basically have to beat our best flag puller to get in the end zone. I had taken a moment early to get on him and one other boy for making to many moves during the scrimmage and basically not taking the 5 to 7 yards on run plays and continuing to run hard at the flag puller to try and get a missed flag pull. Play goes off as expected and he ends up 1 on 1 on right on the End Zone line with our best flag puller, makes a quick move and gets into the End Zone. Pretty cool, Vets running around chest bumping and celebrating until the Rookies remind them they have to convert the XP.
Anti Climatic, they botch the snap/hand-off/QB opens wrong way, total mess on the XP. Games ends Rookies 14 - Vets 12.
If I run a flag season again, we will make this a tradition for the last practice, good times. There was some stuff to work on that we talked about but I won't bore you with the details.
One thing to notice, we have a 7 game season and only practiced 9 times so about 11 hours of total practice time with quite a few misses. Keep your instruction limited (and you play books). I almost feel like I added in too much.
Last game saturday against a 3rd grade team that is 6-0 (we are 5-1), should be a good game. I believe there will be an end of season tourney as well.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:01 AM
Game 7: L 0-19
Played the other 3rd Grade Team in the league. Game was closer than the score. Went into half-time down 0-6 but had our drive stall out @ the 4 yard line with 3 failed pass attempts into the end-zone. We get in their and it would have been interesting.
Again, when a team sets on the counter/reverses well, we have trouble moving the ball. We had 1 interception that resulted in a short field TD in the 2nd Half. Our passing game was better, several of the plays were open but the QB was slow in delivering the ball and missed a couple of reads. It takes a lot of reps to get it clicking. We gave a way a few snaps when our QB didn't boot deep enough and crossed the line on the attempted pass (He picked up this habit just recently).
So we finish the regular season 5-2 only losing to the 2 teams that were clearly better than us. 9 out of 11 scored, new high mark for one of my teams. Think the previous best was 7 out of 10.
I haven't received confirmation that the tourney will be played this weekend but I'm pretty sure it is on.
Played the other 3rd Grade Team in the league. Game was closer than the score. Went into half-time down 0-6 but had our drive stall out @ the 4 yard line with 3 failed pass attempts into the end-zone. We get in their and it would have been interesting.
Again, when a team sets on the counter/reverses well, we have trouble moving the ball. We had 1 interception that resulted in a short field TD in the 2nd Half. Our passing game was better, several of the plays were open but the QB was slow in delivering the ball and missed a couple of reads. It takes a lot of reps to get it clicking. We gave a way a few snaps when our QB didn't boot deep enough and crossed the line on the attempted pass (He picked up this habit just recently).
So we finish the regular season 5-2 only losing to the 2 teams that were clearly better than us. 9 out of 11 scored, new high mark for one of my teams. Think the previous best was 7 out of 10.
I haven't received confirmation that the tourney will be played this weekend but I'm pretty sure it is on.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:43 AM
Tourney: 0-2
Got the word there would only be 6 teams in the city wide tourney, knew as a young team comprised of mostly 2nd graders in the 2/3 league it could be a long day.
Lost the 1st game 0-20. Did a pretty good job on Defense, did not get beat deep or to the outside, we had containment but just missed the flag pulls on the key plays. Offensively, I was a bit upset, they set the rush cone @ 5.5 yards instead of 7 for some reason. Tried to get them to move it but they insisted it was @ 7 yards. Last play of the game was ran from just outside the "no run" zone (5 yard area). After the game I look down and notice LOS cone about 1 foot outside no rush zone and then the rush cone set about 1 foot on the other side of the no rush zone. 1.5 yards makes a huge difference, we don't rush cause typically from 7 yards it's not worth it unless the other team is 80% pass. They rushed the entire game and where all over our PA passes, we just couldn't really get anything working on Offense. The play call was a short post or slant to the area vacated by the rusher and I should have called it more often but that is the last pass play I put in and has not looked good in our limited time.
2nd game lost 14-35 again we struggled on Offense. Team had a dominated player where they pitched to him and gave him the run pass option. We have spent the last month repping more pass Defense and not repping the DE to contain the sweep/counter etc. They chased him with bad angles (Inside Hip, not his outside) and he made them miss and then was 1 on 1 with a man to beat and beat us like a drum.
Lessons learned from the season:
1.) They are still just boys and will be intimidated by bigger/faster. I was always big for my age, I can honestly say I don't remember playing any sport where I felt intimidated or like my team couldn't win. What I've learned from this season of flag is that a primary goal for Fall Tackle Football has to be from the onset to foster a belief in the team as a whole that they can compete with everyone, to play aggressively and let the chips fall where they may. Who care what the odds are, it's not a math test, one play can change the game.
2.) I've felt in our limited practice time (12.75 hours this year), that I didn't have enough time to install base defense/offense plus rep individual skills such as pass catching, passing etc. Basically I evaluate on the 1st day, make my decision and move on. Those who can catch day 1 will have passes thrown to them, those who can't will take runs. The last month we began to run pass catching lines before practice instead of hand-offs with flag pulls at the end. Several of the boys showed improvement from this. What does that mean, I'm not sure but even with lets say 1 hour of practice @ a skill they can improve.
Overall all good season, finished 5-4, lost to 3 teams which were clearly better than us and 1 with a very dominated player (needed some type of box and 2 scheme for him) another lesson learned.
Got the word there would only be 6 teams in the city wide tourney, knew as a young team comprised of mostly 2nd graders in the 2/3 league it could be a long day.
Lost the 1st game 0-20. Did a pretty good job on Defense, did not get beat deep or to the outside, we had containment but just missed the flag pulls on the key plays. Offensively, I was a bit upset, they set the rush cone @ 5.5 yards instead of 7 for some reason. Tried to get them to move it but they insisted it was @ 7 yards. Last play of the game was ran from just outside the "no run" zone (5 yard area). After the game I look down and notice LOS cone about 1 foot outside no rush zone and then the rush cone set about 1 foot on the other side of the no rush zone. 1.5 yards makes a huge difference, we don't rush cause typically from 7 yards it's not worth it unless the other team is 80% pass. They rushed the entire game and where all over our PA passes, we just couldn't really get anything working on Offense. The play call was a short post or slant to the area vacated by the rusher and I should have called it more often but that is the last pass play I put in and has not looked good in our limited time.
2nd game lost 14-35 again we struggled on Offense. Team had a dominated player where they pitched to him and gave him the run pass option. We have spent the last month repping more pass Defense and not repping the DE to contain the sweep/counter etc. They chased him with bad angles (Inside Hip, not his outside) and he made them miss and then was 1 on 1 with a man to beat and beat us like a drum.
Lessons learned from the season:
1.) They are still just boys and will be intimidated by bigger/faster. I was always big for my age, I can honestly say I don't remember playing any sport where I felt intimidated or like my team couldn't win. What I've learned from this season of flag is that a primary goal for Fall Tackle Football has to be from the onset to foster a belief in the team as a whole that they can compete with everyone, to play aggressively and let the chips fall where they may. Who care what the odds are, it's not a math test, one play can change the game.
2.) I've felt in our limited practice time (12.75 hours this year), that I didn't have enough time to install base defense/offense plus rep individual skills such as pass catching, passing etc. Basically I evaluate on the 1st day, make my decision and move on. Those who can catch day 1 will have passes thrown to them, those who can't will take runs. The last month we began to run pass catching lines before practice instead of hand-offs with flag pulls at the end. Several of the boys showed improvement from this. What does that mean, I'm not sure but even with lets say 1 hour of practice @ a skill they can improve.
Overall all good season, finished 5-4, lost to 3 teams which were clearly better than us and 1 with a very dominated player (needed some type of box and 2 scheme for him) another lesson learned.
